יש לי שאלה התחלתי לפני חודשיים דיאנה אנבולית הקפדתי על אחילת שומן ובסביבות ה15 גרם פחמימה עד 20 גרם בגג. אבל התחלתי ישר שבוע של דיאטה (6ימים) ויום העמסה וקראתי עכשיו שהגוף צריך 3-4 שבועות כדי להתרגל יש מצב שלא הייתי בדל פחמימה והורדתי שומן בגלל הגרעון הקלורי בלבד? ועכשיו אחרי חודשיים עשיתי יומיים העמסה של פחמימות אחת גדולה והיום הדני קטן בחצי בערך זה יהרוס לי ? המלצות להמשך בבקשה תודה מראש לעונים
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It is possible that you've lost fat from the caloric deficit only... Caloric balance it's what effect the most, altought you burn more fat and mobelize more fat when you get into a ketogenic state which will make you a "fat burner" machine (more accurate a ketone bodies burner machine) instead of "carb burner machine"s
About the cArbload...
Making a big carbload in one day instead of 2 days carbload can make you retain fat because there is a limit to how much glycogen your body can synthesize per time unit, if you'll consume too many carbs in short period the carbs will be converted to fat in a process called liponeogenesis which means fat new making..
Just act like wrriten don't look for changes, if the author told you to do 2 week low carb and only then a carb load so do it, there is a reason for everything and I assume that you didn't read the book, so at least if you decided to do it from the article listen to the article for sample reason-you don't know what's going on there so u can take decision by
your opinions
Anyway as long as you entered ketosis in the first period you did the low carb/cal day you can forget about the "metabolic shift" phase... The only problem is that it"ll be harder to get into ketosis without glycogen depletion workouts
So about the question if you lost fat from caloric deficit or ketosis I just don't know and it's depends on your glycogen, if you made it and you depleted the glycogen storages you've entered ketosis and burned fat, if you didn't you also burned fat but also a lot of muscles
About the cArbload...
Making a big carbload in one day instead of 2 days carbload can make you retain fat because there is a limit to how much glycogen your body can synthesize per time unit, if you'll consume too many carbs in short period the carbs will be converted to fat in a process called liponeogenesis which means fat new making..
Just act like wrriten don't look for changes, if the author told you to do 2 week low carb and only then a carb load so do it, there is a reason for everything and I assume that you didn't read the book, so at least if you decided to do it from the article listen to the article for sample reason-you don't know what's going on there so u can take decision by
your opinions
Anyway as long as you entered ketosis in the first period you did the low carb/cal day you can forget about the "metabolic shift" phase... The only problem is that it"ll be harder to get into ketosis without glycogen depletion workouts
So about the question if you lost fat from caloric deficit or ketosis I just don't know and it's depends on your glycogen, if you made it and you depleted the glycogen storages you've entered ketosis and burned fat, if you didn't you also burned fat but also a lot of muscles
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Of course!
its a pdf file so just save the internet page and open it everytime U wanna read more.
its also works pretty well in the app "iBook" which can open pdf files in the iphone and also can save them and save the last page you read so you wont need to search the last page you've read in every time you'll want to read again.
so here's the pdf: http://www.fightsource.com.au/documents/Fitness20-20Anabolic20Diet.pdf
have fun:s85:
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This book was published at 1995, almost 20 years ago. Is it still the last word on the subject?
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What do U mean by "is it still the last word on the subject"?
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Are there no new findings, theories, research, criticism etc. concerning this diet?
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There are always more, there's always ppl who'll prefer something else and there are always people who'll prefer their traditional lifestyle, even if theres a theory or research, its a way far to be 100% true... we live in a world with individuals and thats what requires people to search for the match lifestyle for them.. includes this..
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unfortunatel he right pal
When you deplet your glycogen storages the body wants to get it back, so you have kind of window that people use yo call "supercompensation" , in this situation the glycogen synthesis comes first what mean that the body prefers to take the carbs to your glyco storage and also trying to put some extra glycogen and extend your storages, so lets say that you have mx 400gr of glycogen storages in your muscles, when you'll deplet you glyco storages and then do a carb load the body will try to consume 420 this time to extend the available space, this thing can lead you to something called "myofibrillar hypertrophy" which will actually make you bigger by increasing you muscle volume (you'll gain muscle) but anyway the main thing that you need to know that in most of the cases as long as your glycogen storages are empty or not full the body will fill them first and only then store the carbs as fat, so thechnically you can eat alot more then maintainance caloric balance without getting any fat as long as you have more available space
from personal experience-im 80kg about 10-12 percents body fat, I ate about 5000 calories and about 800gr-1000gr just from carbs and belive or not, I had alot of simple carb included in the crazy amount, and still didnt store any fat (at least thats what it looked like in the mirror, the weight, the caliper) s
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No U dont have to be on caloric deficit according to the author who wrote the book but I can tell you that you'll enter ketosis faster in caloric deficit cause you'll make the body burn more glycogen for maintanece..
Didnt understand what did u mean about the carbload
The author say that you have to be on low carb diet for 2 week and then carbload for 2 day not 1 week...
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I hope u did...
Basically, you should feel the ketones in your breath, it should feel juicy like mint or alcohol, you also should have headechs and you should look lean or more accurate dehaydrate, try to sniff your pee, it should have juicy smell too, and if u wanna be the most accurate then do a blood test
Im sure that there are a lot more signs identify ketosis, check on google it shouldnt be hard to find.
