נק' מוניטין:
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No.
U should always eat more fat in your diet excpect situations that U cant because of the low cal diet that force you to put more protein and then U end up with no spare calories, in this situation U actually have no other choise to put fat,
Bul lets say that you need to reach about 2000 calories a day, and U have reached 1500 cal only from protein and carb, all the rest of the calories should be fat from multiple reasons that im not sure that U even interested to know. but one of the main reasons that in low carb diet U should watch your protein not too high and also the fat so it would be enough is, that sometimes when U have available amino acids in the blood the body knows how to transfer then to carbs.. and then you're not in low carb diet anymore... lets says I eat 100gr carb a day but Im eating a lot of protein, a lot.
The body will just take some of the protein, and change some chemical thing in it, and there you go U have another carbs... so now at the end of the day your diet contained more then 100gr, actually even 150-200 sometimes (depends on genes and you know the rest) and you will get stuck in your diet and even burn some muscles
Anyway if Ive already mentioned that protein problem Ill mention another thing that you should know from healthy point of view.
When protein is breaking to amino acids, it releasing some toxic materials.. those materials are filtered by the kidneys and going out in your urine, so if you'll eat a lot of protein, and when I say a lot I meant to above 2.5 gr and even that is high, your kidneys will work extra hours and that can put them in risk.
I didnt mean to scare you but just watch out your amount of protein.. some people think that the more they'll eat the better it will be and even if it wont synthesize into the muscle it wont damage anyone.. and Ill get into the lines and tell U that it will, and its also could ruin your diet completely, and Ive ruined some of my diets in that way because my body loves carb so much that he just broke every fucking spare protein that I had in my blood and I just got out of ketosis and the low carb diet became useless and I suffered for nothing. I tried to get more fat and less protein and guess what happened? the diet worked just perfect, I got up in my body weight, workout weights, and even became stronger then high carb diet. significantly
by the way I forgot to mention that your protein is in good amount, I wrote all this to people who'll ask the same question and they have one of the problems that Ive mentioned up there
U should always eat more fat in your diet excpect situations that U cant because of the low cal diet that force you to put more protein and then U end up with no spare calories, in this situation U actually have no other choise to put fat,
Bul lets say that you need to reach about 2000 calories a day, and U have reached 1500 cal only from protein and carb, all the rest of the calories should be fat from multiple reasons that im not sure that U even interested to know. but one of the main reasons that in low carb diet U should watch your protein not too high and also the fat so it would be enough is, that sometimes when U have available amino acids in the blood the body knows how to transfer then to carbs.. and then you're not in low carb diet anymore... lets says I eat 100gr carb a day but Im eating a lot of protein, a lot.
The body will just take some of the protein, and change some chemical thing in it, and there you go U have another carbs... so now at the end of the day your diet contained more then 100gr, actually even 150-200 sometimes (depends on genes and you know the rest) and you will get stuck in your diet and even burn some muscles
Anyway if Ive already mentioned that protein problem Ill mention another thing that you should know from healthy point of view.
When protein is breaking to amino acids, it releasing some toxic materials.. those materials are filtered by the kidneys and going out in your urine, so if you'll eat a lot of protein, and when I say a lot I meant to above 2.5 gr and even that is high, your kidneys will work extra hours and that can put them in risk.
I didnt mean to scare you but just watch out your amount of protein.. some people think that the more they'll eat the better it will be and even if it wont synthesize into the muscle it wont damage anyone.. and Ill get into the lines and tell U that it will, and its also could ruin your diet completely, and Ive ruined some of my diets in that way because my body loves carb so much that he just broke every fucking spare protein that I had in my blood and I just got out of ketosis and the low carb diet became useless and I suffered for nothing. I tried to get more fat and less protein and guess what happened? the diet worked just perfect, I got up in my body weight, workout weights, and even became stronger then high carb diet. significantly
by the way I forgot to mention that your protein is in good amount, I wrote all this to people who'll ask the same question and they have one of the problems that Ive mentioned up there
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בוקר טוב.תגובה לעניין.
עניין העודף חלבון הוא הסיבה שפתחתי את הפוסט.בד"כ אני הולך לפי הCKD שם כמות החלבון היא לפי 1ג' עבור לפאונד משקל רזה כך שאם אני שוקל כ78ק"ג על 8%שומן אז אני צורך בד"כ כמות של 150-160ג' חלבון בדיוק מהסיבה שציינת למעלה.סיבה נוספת שפתחתי את הפוסט היא מכיון שאני רוצה להתחיל לחזור בהדרגה למאסה ולהעלות את כמות הפחמימות,כרגע לאיזור ה-100(עושה אימוני - ריסט אז לא דחוף יותר)וחששתי שכמות גבוהה יחסית של פחמימה ושל שומן יחד יכולה להיות בעיתית מבחינת עלייה ב%השומן,על אף שברור לי שזה עניין קלורי.
האמת שאשמח לשמוע דיעות בנושא.
נק' מוניטין:
71
No problem pal but high amount of carb and high amount of fat in the same diet could be very bad.
Whenever your glycogen storages are full, every spare carb will actually go to your fat storages
The trick in low carb diet is that your glycogen storages are never filled until the limit so you never store fat, or more accurate is that its hard to your body to store fat when your glycogen in low amount, some people think that the body likes to store fat and fat is his first preference but actually the body likes glucose more then everything, by the way glycogen is a long chin of glucose molecules.
So if those glycogen storages arent full he will prefer to fill them before storing fat, he likes his glycogen so much that if he will need he will breakdown some protein to spare them as glycogen (what Ive told you about the protein) s
So to assume all this, in CKD I suggest you to eat a lot of fat, if u can push all the spare calories from fat it would be good
And another thing is, that in mass phase or every other high carb diet you should watch out from fat and try not to go too high so you'll avoid from lipogenesis (fat creation), stay somewhere in 15-30 percent of calories from fat (should be about 50-100gr but Im not sure its changes from one to another of course) s
Good luck
